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Why arresting lulzsec won’t change anything

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EDIT: Seems lulzsec proved me right http://pastebin.com/1znEGmHa now it really won’t matter if they are arrested, and they have completed their apparent objective of fueling the antisec movement.

 

 

Federal law enforcement agencies from around the world have been working to arrest members of the group known as lulzsec. Love them or hate them lulzsec has changed how the public views hackers and hacking. It has brought more attention to the cyber world and the cultures that develop there, and they have changed how some hackers operate Instead of quietly hacking smaller websites or targets of personal interest, they hack or attempt to hack government targets and post about it on social network and public chat rooms. Lulzsec declared war on the US Government and others like them have answered the call to arms. By doing this lulzsec has ensured that even if they themselves are caught their cause will live on without them, in fact if caught this would only likely motivate their followers further.

These “daughter groups” seem based on their region , on twitter I have seen “lulzsec” based groups for brazil and there have been reports of graffiti tags showing the word “antisec” and lulzsec’s mascot image in San Diego, I do not know how many other groups such as this are out there, but considering lulzsec’s over 200,000 twitter followers the number could be significant. Considering law enforcement’s history with dealing with cell based groups if they seriously want to stop the antisec movement they are going to need a different approach  than the one they are currently taking, fighting them directly is only going to expand the antisec movement and fuel its anger.

Right now lulzsec and its allies have the advantage because their operation is popular and costs very little to operate but does a significant amount of damage, while Government forces cost significant amounts of money to train and operate and do very little damage. Considering how slow that governments are to adopt change, even when it directly benefits them lulzsec and its allies will be at this for quite some time.

If the governments were truly serious about stopping this threat they would  work to defuse the anger and outright hate people feel toward the government these days, they would take steps to show people that they are not the bad guys and stop taking such a hard approach.  They would pay more attention to public perceptions and address the issues that people have in a honest and transparent manner, being answerable to the  public when questions are asked. For example there may be a perfectly rational explaination as to why the FBI took servers that didn’t seem to have anything to do with lulzsec from DigitalOne, but the people will never know why because they won’t comment, and when they do people feel like what they are told does not really explain anything, so without answers from official sources right away, people will just draw logical conclusions based on the available evidence , and said evidence makes it look like the FBI has no idea what it is doing and they have good reason to believe that.

As of late the governments actions in public have been disastrous and it has gotten to the point where people feel compelled to act to stop it. People feel like their rights are being stripped away and that they have no control over their own private lives. They are afraid. So when someone comes along and is not afraid, and not only not afraid but willing and able to act against the target of their fears, they rally around them and support them, feeling less afraid to act themselves, and after enough time they lose all fear of any legal repercussions because they believe they are morally right. This is the point we are at right now, they have motivated and emboldened people that the government has alienated and ignored. Stopping lulzsec won’t stop antisec, in fact it will likely do the opposite. The game has been changed, and right now the only winning move is not to play.

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Written by laurelaibailey

June 25, 2011 at 4:48 pm

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  1. This article is great – so great I emailed it to my dad because I have had difficulty verbalizing these exact points.

    Wes Davis

    June 25, 2011 at 5:26 pm

  2. well they preffer raiding and silencing people, oppressing people.
    why fix and give what people want when we can put them in fema camps

    anon

    June 25, 2011 at 6:21 pm

  3. you are totally right!! Thumbs Up

    Matthew

    June 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm

  4. I supported LulzSec until they irresponsibly leaked 64,000 logins for scriptkiddies to play with. Civilians, no matter how incompetent they are, should not be the target.

    Aypz

    June 25, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    • Agreed with this, completely. Keep the civilians out of it, other than that I’m all for it.

      Down

      June 26, 2011 at 5:57 am

  5. Motivation of Lulzsec and difference from terrorism:
    McVeighs thought process vs Lulzsec.

    http://warintel.blogspot.com/2010/04/timothy-mcveighs-decision-process.html

    Gerald
    Anthropologist

    GeraldAnthro

    June 25, 2011 at 10:25 pm

  6. I’m very glad for what you LulzSec is doing. As a Mexican-American, I am tired of seeing my people demonized and scapegoated for the problems of the country. The only concern I have; and I hope someone can speak to this, is that these internet attacks are being used as justification for the U.S. gov. attacking net neutrality and freedom of speech on the internet. I would like to know how friendlies feel this should be handled.

    VIVA LA REVOLUCION

    NoneYa

    June 26, 2011 at 12:35 am

  7. This article is right on. In many ways. As someone who was recently investigated by the FBI, and actively started a relationship with the Agent who was investigating me, I can honestly give full support behind the statement that they have no idea what they are doing. The problem is that they are an old school enforcement and investigation system, with older processes, and no matter how many “restructurings” they go through, they still do not see the big picture. All someone has to do is create a very well thought out plan and utilize modern technologies in an effort to carry it out. That’s exactly what is happening with these hacker groups. They are often three steps ahead but they are seen as “children” because of their antics. While law enforcement is arresting script kiddies and teenagers, the actual ringleaders are sitting pretty, allowing others to take the fall.

    I agree that lulzsec steps over certain abounds. Our civilians should not be the target as our freedoms are diminished and the constitution is eroded. However, if lulzsec could get to a point were they were being socially beneficial, and go after those who were actually responsible for these aforementioned erosions, they could possibly have an impact. Instead, they are just a bunch of desperate attention seekers who need to learn how to really operate within a military type mindset to create change.

    merePerspective

    June 26, 2011 at 1:35 am

    • Would you like to speak further about your experiences? Perhaps I could interview you?

      laurelaibailey

      June 26, 2011 at 2:28 am

  8. oh please, you’re over exaggerating anything lulzsec managed to do. the only significant one was the sony attack. even then, that’s questionable since lulzsec only claimed responsibility and real hackers keep quiet. any moron is capable of getting tv spotlight if he’s willing to go to jail for it. you’ve accomplished nothing but put innocent people’s assets and lives in danger.

    how about you actually try to rally public support for your antisec movement? oh what’s that? you can’t because the government hasn’t done anything to validate rebelling against them, let alone, are capable of stepping out of your basements and stand in public view? take a lesson from the gays and find a real cause and fight for it morally

    what exactly are you kiddies fighting against anyway?

    lulzsec are nothing more than cowards, amateurs, and cyber terrorists and they WILL go to jail

    bebo

    June 26, 2011 at 2:41 am

    • It’s not my movement i just write about it because its topical. Next week will be something else.

      laurelaibailey

      June 26, 2011 at 2:43 am

  9. LulzSec is not a terrorist act but an act of courage to stand up the the giants in the cyber world, in reality people have to stand up against the giants and the governments but even that doesn’t work always, take for instance what happen a few months ago in Croatia when the around 5000 people were standing in front of the Prime Ministers house, demanding change. What happen??? Nothing. What happen in Libya, because of greed for money, they are at war, and what NATO is doing, bombing… that’s not the answer. The question rises, Why are they getting involved at all??? and the answer to that is and will always be money. Every thing that happens in the world is about money as money is a figure of value which has no value. What LulzSec did, it only open up peoples view, it was not for any financial gain but so they could laugh at the corporations and governments and to show the people that the so could security is just so that someone gets more money for nothing, the Sony attack was just like that, it was to show that the Giant Corporation that believes that is a so called god on the market,can be brought down to beg for mercy, the personal information that was leaked was not so that others can use for their amusement but so that people who believe in such giant corporations are aware that their personal information is out there, to be careful where you leave your name and other info. So that people would use their credit cards as less as possible, as that money that they are using is nothing but virtual money that doesn’t exist. What LulzSec did, and what it stands for is beyond the AntiSec movement. The AntiSec movement is just the beginning.

    TehMadD4nte

    June 26, 2011 at 5:10 am

  10. Very, very good article. Thanks!

    Ben Allen

    June 26, 2011 at 9:46 am

  11. And what about Stuxnet?

    kingdomtroubles

    June 26, 2011 at 10:20 am

  12. Lulzsec gone? 50 days and they call it quits
    NO, still there. Paradigm.

    http://warintel.blogspot.com/2011/06/is-lulzsec-gone-no.html

    Gerald
    Anthropologist

    GeraldAnthro

    June 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    • Yeah, I don’t buy this. They’ll be back under a different name in no time. That’s the shell game that’s needed to stay a step ahead. Them claiming to quit is a smart move.

      merePerspective

      June 26, 2011 at 5:19 pm

  13. It seemed to me that LulzSec was truly nothing special. In computer hacking its truly what you know instead of who you know. So there are thousands and thousands who hold the skills to hack.. so the true villains… are all around us… *creepy music in d-minor*

    IvanGrozni

    June 26, 2011 at 6:49 pm


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